[F500] All this engine stuff

A. E. Trier qre-shadow at juno.com
Mon Feb 9 17:31:53 MST 2004


Q has returned from his last foray into the Canadian wilderness and has
read some of the latest posts. He particularly likes the last one from
Jay. Although he builds fast cars and faster engines, he has a tough time
with computers. That's the reason he tolerates me:-).

Q has asked that I advise the list that he is very much behind the
statements that Jay has made in his latest post. He supports Jays opinion
and would very much like to get back to racing in a class that has a
future if we approve the 493. He has taken the liberty of writing to the
CRB and the BOD to make his viewpoint known. He wishes that everyone in
support of the 493 does the same. He didn't say what you guys who favor
the 494 Rave should do <g>.

Art
  
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:57:24 -0500 "Jay Novak" <jnovak6 at wideopenwest.com>
writes:
> In my opinion all this engine discussion is going ABSOLUTELY NO 
> WHERE.
> We are NEVER going to make everyone happy.  
> 
> You guys need to look at the big picture. We MUST HAVE a new engine
> let's get the 493 approved.  Add 0 lbs or 25 lbs or whatever, I do 
> not
> care it will not make ANY DIFFERENCE in the long haul. What will 
> make a
> difference is NOT having a new production engine.
> 
> Believe me, we run up front at EVERY race we run & I guarantee you 
> that
> I will not be buying a 493 for a couple of years because we can't 
> afford
> it until our stuff is totally worn out.  I will run against the 493 
> with
> our 494.  PLEASE bring it on.  This class will be DEAD in less than 
> 5
> years if we do not quit this petty BS.
> 
> Sorry to go on a rant, but I have been in this great class since 
> 1985 &
> it has only been getting better & faster.  The only thing that has
> slowed us down was the lack of a reliable engine for 2 or 3 years.  
> The
> moaning & complaining was huge when the 494 was proposed because it 
> was
> a rotary valve instead of a reed motor.  Now we are complaining 
> about a
> reed motor.  This class would be DEAD except for ROTAX & the 494, 
> let's
> get the 493 approved & we can continue to grow.  
> 
> No more comments from me on this subject, nuff said.
> 
> Thanks ... Jay Novak
> NovaRace Inc.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darrel_Greening at mercmarine.com
> [mailto:Darrel_Greening at mercmarine.com] 
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:43 PM
> To: f500 at f500.org
> Subject: [F500] All this engine stuff
> 
> I don't know what would be so difficult about specifying cylinder 
> and
> head
> part numbers for a 494 RAVE motor (or the 494 non-RAVE or 493 for 
> that
> matter).  The part numbers for the cylinders (494 RAVE and 
> non-RAVE)are
> cast into the outside.  The left one can be easily seen without 
> taking
> anything apart..  The part number for the cylinder head is easy to 
> see
> if
> the cover is removed (12 or 13 allen bolts).   You don't even have 
> to
> remove the spark plugs, just have something to soak up a little
> coolant/water.  Nothing critical needs to be disassembled.  I would
> expect
> that the 493 is the same way.  Publish the valid part numbers and 
> let's
> go.
> The GCR lists part numbers for the Kawasaki heads, so this isn't
> anything
> new.
> 
> If worried about the HP differences, make the 494 RAVE and the 493 
> legal
> for national competition with either a 36mm carb or acceptable
> restrictor.
> This isn't new either.  When the Kawasaki came in it had to run 
> either
> 34mm
> carbs or the restrictor.  If these engines prove to be slightly
> underpowered in competition then make and adjustment, just like the
> Kawasaki's no longer need the 34mm restriction in club racing.  
> Heck,
> let
> the AMW have the same carbs as the 494 RAVE and the 493.  I would 
> rather
> see these motors come in a little under powered, because as these 
> motors
> get figured out, they will get stronger.  At least this way, all 
> the
> current 494 motors aren't immediately obsolete.
> 
> If I can come up with a reasonably priced 493, I'd like to run a
> regional
> race at a track where I've run a national race just to see if there 
> is a
> difference on the track.
> 
> Darrel Greening
> #03
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